Fred talks with Rudy about a career in the military and law enforcement. Rudy brings us through his experiences during the Vietnam era, then his time in Berlin Germany prior to the Berlin Wall coming down. Next, he talks about his time in the US Marshals Service, where he was providing security for our courts and judges; as well as pursuing suspect/ fugitive apprehension. Finally, he shares his late career experience overseas, as he helped State Department and National security teams advise other nations in their attempts to build infrastructures essential for justice and the rule-of-law in their countries. It is a phone-based conversation (as you’ll hear in the audio quality), but a fascinating insight into a career often spent in obscurity; but on the front lines of justice and the rule-of-law here and abroad.